tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6340335897594941637.post5102219092028900233..comments2024-03-29T07:16:56.810+00:00Comments on Sean Linnane: WELCOME TO MY NIGHTMARESTORMBRINGERhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18405613458419510116noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6340335897594941637.post-69112703200505003312012-07-04T06:42:49.083+01:002012-07-04T06:42:49.083+01:00SL is right:
You will see.
Unfortunately.
“Few ar...SL is right:<br />You will see.<br />Unfortunately.<br /><br />“Few are those who see with their own eyes and feel with their own hearts.”Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6340335897594941637.post-62172308593471051922012-07-03T23:19:56.697+01:002012-07-03T23:19:56.697+01:00"nine times out of ten it's cheaper to pa..."nine times out of ten it's cheaper to pay cash"...<br /><br />That isn't at all accurate though, is it? The point is that medical costs are randomised. If you go to the doctor as a cash-paying individual 9 times and save up, if a grave illness is determined on the tenth, then most people relying on this basis would be broke.<br /><br />Medical services can be viewed as a community service. Such as a neighbourood watchman bening hired to watch over 5 houses. If two houses opt not to pay in at all, the other three will pay in for the five and provide them with protection for nothing. It is simple economics that some things rely on community understanding.<br /><br />In "communist" France today, everything in done by private insurance, with some coverage for thsoe without. Those who are employed in France and Germany (for example) must pay in to an insurance scheme.<br /><br />The purest example of the obamacare as "tax" is in the UK. Doctors have told me that the real advantage of this system is that it is cheap. There is a surprisingly small trade off in benefits for extra cash expenditure on medical care above this level. However, even in this system, General Practitioners are private businesses, paid collossal sums from the private purse until those identified with major problems are passed on to NHS-run hospitals.<br /><br />The major issue that should irk Americans is not that they will have a healthcare system that is more like a government service than a network of private interactions, but rather that, as Britain has, America will continually misdirect resources towards votes based on medical funding rather than sensible and worthwhile projects such as 22 Aircraft carriers. <br /><br />When Britain went NHS, there was a deliberate decision to spend high sums on medical provision by nationalising private trusts, hospitals and friendly societies. It really isn't a coincidence that the British Navy (I cannot bear to call it the Royal Navy any longer) is reduced to the level of Belgium in naval prowess.Pnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6340335897594941637.post-75878367679700391102012-07-03T21:01:15.620+01:002012-07-03T21:01:15.620+01:00Stormbringer, It's collected by the IRS & ...Stormbringer, It's collected by the IRS & is based on your income, how can you not see that it IS a tax?<br />As far as knowing the entire payroll and family income, they already know that. They are still enjoined from sharing any tax information with other gov't agencies. <br />Once you stop and look at it, this was the only possible course of action roberts had.<br />He kicked it back to the people and congress to get rid of this piece of crap legislation while keeping congress from getting any more power under the commerce clause.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6340335897594941637.post-19847217246541923952012-07-03T20:14:00.480+01:002012-07-03T20:14:00.480+01:00To the first comment, you've got to be kidding...To the first comment, you've got to be kidding me... Saying it is the fault of, as you put it, "the deadbeats who chose not to purchase health insurance when they had the means to do so." You really think that's where the blame lies? The middle class family making $120k/yr. that could actually afford private health insurance if they wanted to? Yeah, those are the ones not paying their bills... That's the reason why they're going to be taxed now, right? Because it's all their fault. <br /><br />The problem is this idea that everything should be "fair." I'm all for programs that take care of the poor but not at the expense of those who actually look down, find their boot straps, and pull up. I came from a dirt poor farming family that couldn't afford a gallon on milk but worked my "butt" off, got undergraduate and graduate degrees, and not once did we use any govt assistance. <br /><br />Assist the poor, give them an icentive to make something of themselves (not make welfare better than getting a min wage job), and don't punish those that work hard and do it on their own.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6340335897594941637.post-87760844430857266422012-07-03T15:52:03.855+01:002012-07-03T15:52:03.855+01:00I don't know anything about Facebook - what I ...I don't know anything about Facebook - what I do know after having been on the recieving end of Government medicine for the better part of 3 decades (thru the military Tricare system) is 2 things: A) Tricare rhymes with Welfare and is one step above prison medicine, and B) if you're expecting the Government to take care of you, take a look at what happened to the American Indian.<br /><br />If what we had was so bad we had to have the US Govt step in and take over, then how come we have the highest cancer survival rates in the world by a factor of 80, and how come our life expectancy keeps going up? <br /><br />You'll see - you suckers who voted for Barry Soetero - you'll see. You'll get your Govt healthcare now, and then you'll get in line and take what they ration out with no recourse - can't sue the Govt - and then you'll see.<br /><br />Me personally I liked it the way it was - even if I was funding the poor people who had to go through the emerg room to get healthcare - cheaper & more effectively managed by private medical ins co's than by the US Govt any day. I mean, we're talking the people who can't even run a post office - what makes you think for a minute they can manage a healthcare system for a continent-sized country of 330 million divergent souls?<br /><br />This thing is going to make the Titanic look like a ride at Disneyland . . . <br /><br />. . . you'll see . . .STORMBRINGERhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18405613458419510116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6340335897594941637.post-83719485647147560142012-07-03T15:31:05.136+01:002012-07-03T15:31:05.136+01:00When you attempt to share this article on Facebook...When you attempt to share this article on Facebook, the above comment appears instead. Very misleading.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6340335897594941637.post-12884640391744331252012-07-03T14:55:40.413+01:002012-07-03T14:55:40.413+01:00Instead of being pissed at the individual mandate ...Instead of being pissed at the individual mandate (which, by the way, was originally proposed by the Heritage Foundation), be pissed at the people who REALLY made it happen - the deadbeats who chose not to purchase health insurance when they had the means to do so. Every year, hospitals and doctors are stuck with millions upon millions of costs for uncompensated care when the uninsured decide not to pay their bills. Our insurers then get stuck with higher charges to make up for it. When you get insurance companies and hospitals on the same side, the wheels of Congress get greased. <br /><br />Like it or not, having health insurance is necessary and responsible in today's America. Only the most successful can really afford an inpatient hospital bill. You can whine about the IRS all you want, but I for one am sick of picking up the tab for the bums who would rather buy a car than insure themselves and their families. Frankly, they're pretty much the only ones who will face the tax, and I don't have a problem with that. Yeah, I feel for the folks for whom insurance bills are a burden, but you know, when I was out of work, I managed to pay my bills - including my insurance bill.<br /><br />Sorry, but everybody with insurance (whether commercial insurance or Medicaid/Medicare - the ultimate in socialized medicine) can blame the deadbeats for the individual mandate and the IRS horrors you describe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com