tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6340335897594941637.post6298575279168206377..comments2024-03-28T08:36:39.902+00:00Comments on Sean Linnane: AZIMUTH CHECKSTORMBRINGERhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18405613458419510116noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6340335897594941637.post-6563915386481430012010-06-16T07:03:51.674+01:002010-06-16T07:03:51.674+01:00Sean
"Mark - the nature of the problem with ...Sean<br /><br />"Mark - the nature of the problem with racial profiling: 70-80% doesn't cut the mustard. They only have to be successful once - we have to be successful EVERY TIME."<br /><br />We may just be talking at slight cross purposes here. If you want to stop all terrorist attacks, sure, you are absolutely correct. That may be your point, and I'll not disagree with it.<br />I am looking at it from the perspective of deterrence, knowing that we cannot stop all of their strikes. But we can really complicate their tactical picture and make it a lot harder for them, which then gives the intel guys more chances to catch them. This is pretty much how the Australian federal Police caught the two groups of home-grown terrorists here in 2006 (Op Pendennis). To my mind, risk profiling is just another tool in the kit. 'Racial' profiling is, perhaps, an emotive and inaccurate term; Islam is not, after all, a race.<br /><br />I'll just say that if we can identify the higer-order threat as 'mostly military-age muslim ethnic Arabs from countries X, Y and Z' then I have no difficulty with skewing resources appropriately while still not failing to use some resources to cover the lower-order threats.<br /><br />'Otherwise you're right in your observations - and I have lived & worked in my share of Muslim countries; Mauritania, Bosnia, Egypt, Kuwait, and Bangladesh. This IS a religious war, from their point of view.'<br /><br />Agreed.<br /><br />'My point is we need to keep this from becoming a religious war from OUR point of view, and marginalizing the remainder of the Muslims who are currently AGAINST terrorism, and who are the majority.'<br /><br />Also agreed. If this becomes a religious war from our perspective, then we are back in the Thirty Year's War, only worse. To get to that point, it will have to have become existential. If that happens, then Richard Fernandez's 'Three Conjectures' have been made flesh in some way. No child of the Enlightenment wants that. Ahmadinijad does, but he's a Mahdiviat, pining for the apocalypse.<br /><br />We will win such a war, but we may lose our souls in doing so, as was realised far, far too late by the demon-haunted leaders who wrote the Treaty of Wesphalia in 1648.<br /><br />MarkL<br />CanberraAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6340335897594941637.post-72650280708276898022010-06-15T15:00:38.438+01:002010-06-15T15:00:38.438+01:00OK its getting a little religious there, and in fa...OK its getting a little religious there, and in fact we are at war with the extremist. remember we are warriors our job is to free oppressed peoples (when called upon by those people for our help) we also are suppose to defend the USA against all enemies foreign and domestic. Now history has also shown most wars have had some connection to religion (in some shape or form). don't forget the Nazis had their religion going on (pagan origin i believe) also the crusades were based totality on religion the epic battle Christians and Muslims. these battles were on going from 1095 to 1291 and remember that Jerusalem fell to the Turks in 1065. we are still battling an ideal and teachings that are based on thousands of year old religion. a total control environment as told about in the bible and other documents. to defeat this will take years of breaking the cycle of teaching and passing on the ideology. again history tells the story and shows the path that world walks. look at it this way there are haves and have not usually the haves take from the have nots, as well as keeping them have nots. see simple oppression. Special Adjent SkullheadAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6340335897594941637.post-48136932561822330042010-06-15T14:07:58.394+01:002010-06-15T14:07:58.394+01:00Uncle stormy can i drive the truck. i promise i wo...Uncle stormy can i drive the truck. i promise i wont run over anyone. i can be know as the pig bomber give out pork rines and bacon. set up a hot dog stand out front and serve chicken/pork by product hot dogs. SkullheadAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6340335897594941637.post-37640167826123098462010-06-15T12:12:59.555+01:002010-06-15T12:12:59.555+01:00Mark - the nature of the problem with racial profi...Mark - the nature of the problem with racial profiling: 70-80% doesn't cut the mustard. They only have to be successful once - we have to be successful EVERY TIME.<br /><br />Otherwise you're right in your observations - and I have lived & worked in my share of Muslim countries; Mauritania, Bosnia, Egypt, Kuwait, and Bangladesh. This IS a religious war, from their point of view. My point is we need to keep this from becoming a religious war from OUR point of view, and marginalizing the remainder of the Muslims who are currently AGAINST terrorism, and who are the majority.<br /><br />Thanks for your thoughts-<br /><br />Sean LinnaneSTORMBRINGERhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18405613458419510116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6340335897594941637.post-85772085673363761192010-06-15T06:07:09.147+01:002010-06-15T06:07:09.147+01:00Mark, you hit a home run.Mark, you hit a home run.Timmeehhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10473249796933057572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6340335897594941637.post-79733056333951253932010-06-15T00:55:29.891+01:002010-06-15T00:55:29.891+01:00I have thought about your post here for a while, a...I have thought about your post here for a while, and I don't fully agree. I have lived in a South East Asian Muslim country for some years, and have 31 years in the military. I have studied these guys for decades.<br /><br />We are already in a full-blooded religious war with a sizeable faction of Islam, the Wahabists and their offshoots. This faction is trying to drag in the rest, with little success. This is a war which is over a thousand years old, Middle eastern Christians here in Australia call it 'the Forever War'. it is a religious war of extermination.<br /><br />Islam itself is not a religion at all, as close study of the koran (a genuinely vile document brimming with violence and hate) shows. It is little more than a seventh-century Mein Kampf: a 'how to' manual for a conquest ideology. When practised by Arabs, Islam itself is entirely parasitic, it produces nothing new and stifles all innovation. Note the distinction carefully.<br /><br />None of this is true in South East Asia, where Islam is actually being turned into a genuine religion. This is a remarkable achievement which is not complete: it will take centuries to complete.<br /><br />So in a sense you are correct: 'racial profiling' is not efficient unless we fully understand our enemy. I'd point out that if we racial profile we do cover perhaps 70-80% of the threat today, so it is tactically useful.<br /><br />What we have to do is 'racial and religious profiling against the right factions'. This might lift us to 90-95% efficiency.<br /><br />We also need to understand that efficincies above 95% are probably impossible. We also need to understand the fragmentation and factionalisation of the muslims, cultivate the friendlies and promote internal conflicts among our enemies. This war will last at least another thousand years.<br /><br />And above all, convert, convert, convert. Ex-Muslims make wonderful Christians who fully understand the fundamentally evil nature of Wahabist Islam.<br /><br />MarkL<br />CanberraAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6340335897594941637.post-53512959107741633102010-06-14T17:06:14.056+01:002010-06-14T17:06:14.056+01:00I wonder if someone involved in the construction c...I wonder if someone involved in the construction could bury a hog carcass in the concrete? particularly in the proper point of the compass?<br /><br />c'mon..the italian "buisnessmen" in NYC can't be liking this mosque..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6340335897594941637.post-18965355762245423662010-06-14T17:05:23.606+01:002010-06-14T17:05:23.606+01:00I'll donate gas money to get them delivered! H...I'll donate gas money to get them delivered! Hell, I'll donate a hog or two- the scene would be priceless! Just imagine the you tube furor!<br />lolol!<br />Your efforts are appreciated!<br />JO:)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6340335897594941637.post-59777790046682588132010-06-14T10:56:50.077+01:002010-06-14T10:56:50.077+01:00Thanks, Brother, for the gentle reminder.
As to t...Thanks, Brother, for the gentle reminder.<br /><br />As to the post: SMIBchasmatichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14962911972107586613noreply@blogger.com