Tuesday, August 31, 2010

THEIR GUY . . . OUR GUY . . .

This just about sums it up . . . S.L.

Their guy . . .

Our guy . . .

Sent in by my good friend and schoolmate The Ferret.


  1. Welcome to Amerika!
    Now...where is moose and squirril?

  2. Last time I saw something like this current situation Peanut Man was prez. Those of us on active duty were reminded, from time to time, that there were UCMJ penalties for showing disrespect to the Office of the President.

    The other side slandered Bush without letup. Wonder how this is being taken there.

  3. The whole world is laughing their asses off at us as it is intended. But, my friends, don't be misled and focus on Obama. He is only the beard, a front man for powerful people that wish the demise of our country. Soros is one, there are other factions which remain in shadow.

    Political conflicts are merely surface manifestations. If conflicts arise you may be sure that certain powers intend to keep this conflict under operation since they hope to profit from the situation. To concern yourself with surface political conflicts is to make the mistake of the bull in the ring, you are charging the cloth. That is what politics is for, to teach you the cloth. Just as the bullfighter teaches the bull, teaches him to follow, obey the cloth.

    Other countries with mostly poor illiterate citizens, um, Mid-East and South America come to mind, they do not have to be actively subverted and led against us (micro-managed so to speak). All they need to see is America woefully represented by Obama, who gives the appearance of weakness. That will embolden them to commit or attempt to commit acts against us.

    Putin is a hard ass. He's a thug and hurts many in his country. I recall reading a quote recently where he said that demonstrators for freedom and democracy in Russia should be beaten. Ok, so he's a bad guy but on the world stage the message he emanates is "don't fuck with me".

    Seems to me we need to show some muscle out there. Give possible enemies the idea that they will get hurt real bad if they try to mess with us. A hard guy will not last long within our nation but can serve a purpose on the world stage.

    I'd like to hear some feedback, if I'm off track let me know.

  4. I don't think it is so much an insult on us as a way for Putin to build self image with his constituents and the people to win favor to return to the Kremlin in 2012.

  5. In a world where foreign governments blame everything wrong with their countries on American agitators (nice dodge from personal responsibility!) and terrorists justify their crimes as preemptive strikes, we need to calm down some of the fear out there, even as we recoup our strength from the overextension of a two-front war. Losing control of Afghanistan hurt our public image more than a few shots of Obama being Daddy to his little girls. If we can restore order to Afghanistan (and maybe even catch bin Ladin!) while making it clear that we only mean harm to those who harm us, we will gain a lot more international respect than anything Putin can drum up with his Rambo-shots.

  6. One reality for the Russian people is that they want strong central leadership. They like iron willed strength and they don't need to be in touch with their feminine side. They don't know anything else and it's comforting for them as a nation when they have it. Putin knows his audience, and of course feeds his own megalomaniac ego in the process.
    As for our own current token leadership upon the world stage, I see him as a cross between Barney Fife, and Steve Urkle……jd


  7. To be clear:
    a) are you sure Putin has a megalomaniac ego?
    b) iron willed strength sans feminine side equals good things, right? Or should Obama bang his purse on the lecturn and reply "we will do your nails for you!!"

  8. Hmmm, let’s see,
    Megalomania is a word defined as: [1]
    1. A psychopathological condition characterized by delusional fantasies of wealth, power, or omnipotence.
    2. An obsession with grandiose or extravagant things or actions.
    For me, the definition most identifiable for our friend Mr Putin would fall into number 2 more than 1. Primarily because his is not brought about by delusional fantasies. He truly does have wealth, power, and an ever growing omnipotence since he once again desires the Russian Presidency in 2012 for another 6 years.
    As for the rest of your response, get over it. For one thing I'm not a Putin fan but, I do have an opinion. Is that OK?
    I'm merely pointing out that in the "image" of a strong willed leader such as those throughout the Czar legacy, Stalin, and most other Soviet and Russian leaders since, they had a tendency at times towards paranoia, narcissism, authoritarianism, Machiavellianism, and a high need for personal power. In many ways, Russian people still want to emulate this in leadership. Putin fits this and the "cult of personality" mold to a tee and he benefits from it. Right now, Obama could only dream of this kind of image for himself, and I'm sure he does.
    That said, as for "image" which is what this post refers to, people elected Obama and can decide for themselves if they want a president who feels more comfortable going onto shows like The View, or to the very few press conferences where the questions are also canned.

    And I'm sure Putin has plenty of hot Russian babes to do his nails for him.....jd

  9. Well, actually this started as a comparison between the iron man Putin and the satin doll Obama.

    Who rules Russia, in any of its iterations since Potempkin, is not so much a reflection of the citizens as it is an indication of what strength it takes to rule them. Who rules the US is more a reflection of the citizens, the ones who elected him.

    The definition of megalomaniac fits Obama more than Putin. Re-read it and see. I'm not a Putin fan either but I want a leader I can be proud of, one who will not embarrass us on the world stage. The one we got now does our country a great disservice. I'm proud of our nation and sad we got the guy we got as POTUS. You like him? Proud of him? Comfortable with the direction in which we are headed? Secure with the possibility that he is owned and controlled by others? Rather than "just get over it", how about "Stand and deliver"?

    BTW I am familiar with Machiavelli and his writings, The Prince being the most noted. I've never heard of "Machiavellianism". Is this just a word you made up or is there some external reference?

  10. Charles,
    Machiavellianism (and variations of it) is actually a very common term used to identify certain leadership characteristics but, as you requested; according to the Oxford English Dictionary, "the employment of cunning and duplicity in statecraft or in general conduct", deriving from the Italian Renaissance diplomat and writer Niccolò Machiavelli, who wrote Il Principe (The Prince) and other works. "Machiavellian" (and variants) as a word became very popular in the late 16th century in English, though "Machiavellianism" itself is first cited by the OED from 1626. The word has a similar use in modern psychology.

    Otherwise, I would agree a psychopathological condition characterized by delusional fantasies of wealth, power, or omnipotence would fit our brain dead president more. Putin fit more closely with the second definition as "having an obsession with grandiose or extravagant things or actions". This is just my opinion though, which seems to have run into some question here with some folks, evan when we aggree though?

    As for "get over it", it's in reference to Philistines rather snippy reply to me.

    How did you get that I was for this twit Obama?

  11. I merely asked for a clarification, since you seem to be adverse to the idea a strong cultural connection between the people's needs and what their leaders deliver. In this regard they make us look fools.

    I also doubt you know any Russians since you knock their most admirable traits- the ability to deal with what "is" being close to the top of the list. Knowing one's place in life being another. Pretending to be the smartest guy in the room? Not even on the charts.

    The answer to b) would be simply "yes".

    BTW: Have you ever read yourself? You must be new to the interwebs. I don't need a trip down dictionary lane fraught with pedantry. When a stranger asks you a question deliver not a pointless sermon.

    Try taking off the red-white-and-blue colored glasses for a moment and realize just who the enemies are for the USA.

    And since you are into looking things up, Google up Cicero Enemy. Oh, and please feel free to waste a page or two correcting me.

  12. jd: that's the thing, when you get out there on center ice you gotta be ready, take some hits.

    Thanks for the definition; rather than dealing with the polysyllabics I'll stick to "... plain speaking and clear understanding ..." as Caspar Gutman toasted to Sam Spade in The Maltese Falcon. (yeah, yeah, I know, couldn't resist the trivia).

    Anyway, there are a few world leaders that got the balls, stand up and BE the leader. Doesn't mean I like them or agree with their politics, just acknowledging their power. But this string has not been oh how wonderful Putin is, rather oh how pitiful Obama is. Nuff said, no sense flogging a dead pony.

    I didn't "get" that you were anything. That's just it. The questions were to sound you out. This is not the reading room at some Starbucks or a Poly-sci class at some community college.

    You got a right to your opinion even if I don't agree with it. Me too, also Philistine, with whom I agree.

    Blogging is a contact sport. Take due notice, and govern yourself accordingly. DPJK

  13. Hokay calm down you lot.

    Be advised: jd is a personal friend & comrade-in-arms (read: US Army Special Forces) - we walked the walk together.

    I am not defending jd here; I'm just letting you know. jd is as hard-willed and iron-skinned as much as anybody who has trooped the line for over a quarter century and is capable of defending himself.

    Anyway he HAS to be capable of taking it; that's your lot in life when you are a Miami Dolphins fan - the only thing worse than being a Raiders fan.

    JD is a charter member of Team STORMBRINGER.

  14. Yessir. My bad. Apologies all around. I forgot where I was for a second, this is as friendly territory as there is out here. Now where the fuck is tong tong with some good Chinese wisdom when we need it?

  15. Hey...
    This is the Dolphins year baby!!!

  16. Sean, that you vouch for jd is good enough for me.

    jd, I'm sorry if I disrespected you, got carried away with my bantering. Sometimes I speak faster than I think (Barb says usually) so I didn't see your "come-from" which is more due to my poor vision than to your expression. I stayed home from school the day they taught "Think before speaking".

    Yes, friendly territory, good point Philistine. Let the shadows of contention be banished by the light of day. We each of us need all the friends we can get these days.

  17. Um, jd, I wasn't gonna say anything, give it a wide berth. The weight you're carrying, well,you and Sean like them teams, you got my sympathy.

    I'm going with the Broncos; I can wait 'til y'all catch up.

  18. I don't now, but these days the macho image seems to be helping Putin. He's approval ratings are at a two year high as we speak.