Thursday, September 9, 2010


If this story about the VA and Homeland Security denying veterans concealed handgun permits is true, it is very disturbing:

From a Vietnam Vet and retired Police Officer:

I had a Doctor’s appointment at the local VA clinic yesterday and found out something very interesting that I would like to pass along. While going through triage before seeing the doctor, I was asked at the end of the exam, three questions:

1. Did I feel stressed?
2. Did I feel threatened?
3. Did I feel like doing harm to someone?

The nurse then informed me, that if I had answered ‘yes’ to any of the questions, I would have lost my concealed carry permit as it would have gone into my medical records and the VA would have reported it to Homeland Security.

Another vet reports: "Last month, at my VA med visit, they asked me exactly the same questions and I asked them why they never asked them before and their answer was that it is a new policy that they must ask all vets!"

So far this could be dismissed as the rumor mill; but it gets more real than that:

Sgt. Wayne Irelan re-enlisted in the Army National Guard after September 11th.

He was severely injured in Iraq and awarded the Purple Heart. But now his second amendment rights have been taken away.

“I really feel betrayed,” Sgt. Irelan told 5NEWS.

A year ago the Irelan’s began receiving a small stipend from Veterans Affairs because Lana had to take over the family’s finances.

“How many husbands do you know in America that pay the bills? There’s not very many,” Lana Irelan told 5NEWS.

The V.A. declared Wayne Irelan incompetent and now his right to own a gun is gone.

“It’s wrong. Laws need to be changed. They need to look at individuals and not stereotype them as some sort of mad man,” Sgt. Irelan said.

Irelan has post traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) from the Iraq war, but his wife says he has never been violent. Lana Irelan told 5NEWS his diagnosis is not a legitimate reason for his gun rights to be taken away.

“I was there when they gave him his purple heart for fighting for that right to bear arms, and they are stripping it away,” Lana said, her eyes tearing up.

The couple didn’t know Wayne’s gun rights had been terminated until they went to get a gun out of pawn. Days later Wayne got a letter from the Arkansas State Police saying his concealed carry permit had been revoked. The ATF has told the Irelans that they could go to jail if a firearm is found in their home. . . .

One more horror story of how the Government will take care of you . . . I've got a couple Government Medicine horror stories of my own . . . let me tell you about it sometime . . . SEAN LINNANE SENDS

"If you expect the Government to take care of you, you're gonna get what the American Indian got." - Sergeant Major Loclomancil, US Army Special Forces and full-blooded Payute.



  1. Sean,
    Not too surprised by this. The 1st time I had to answer this questionnaire, I felt it to be a pernicious document which could only come back to haunt anyone naive enough to answer it honestly. Same thing with PTSD diagnostic concerns; “would a soldier loose his clearance” was the first concern for many of us but now it’s also gun permits? The people behind these initiatives don’t want honesty in order to take care of the troops; they’d rather find a means to pigeon-hole those of us whom they could never relate too. How would he be classified after being discharged or retirement and therefore labeled and even victimized because of a PTSD label? Well, we now see a partial answer to that. PTSD has become a huge diagnostic label within the military by those who either legitimately suffer, or those unscrupulously seeking a disability rating. It’s now coming back to bite’em in the ass. How else will this category surface in the future? Hmmmm?
    It’s been a long time since the US was truly the land of the free for all Americans. Unfortunately it’s becoming more and more the nanny-state of liberal and progressive victim labelers, classes and categories of people, and blackmail…..jd

  2. Gunsmith in the same county in Texas as I, after the various "Vet Disarmament Acts" lost his FFL and CHL when they started sharing VA Medical Records with DOJ because he'd gone in for PTSD treatment in the 80s. He'd never even had a speeding ticket in his life and guns were his life. It's happened elsewhere, too, mi amigo Kurt wrote up this case in Omaha.

  3. That's so mindnumblingly wrong it could only come from leftist turds.
    Them straws are getting heavier.

  4. My father-in-law (Ken's step dad) has had the same questions asked of him. He's a Vietnam Vet (and a past president of the local chapter of VVA) and has a host of service related maladies, including PTSD. He's scared to death of this and treats all contact with VA health care professionals with great trepidation and a closed mouth. If you want confirmation on this Sean drop me a line and I'll put you in touch with him.